Percentages, and the four sums people actually get wrong

Most percentage mistakes are not arithmetic errors. They are four specific situations where the obvious answer is wrong, and they turn up in shops, invoices and newspapers every day.

5 min read · last checked 2026-09-04

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Percentages are taught at about age eleven and then quietly get harder, because the everyday cases are not the ones on the worksheet. Four of them catch almost everybody.

First, the four questions

Nearly every percentage problem is one of these. It helps enormously to notice which one you are actually in.

The questionThe sumExample
What is 15% of 80?80 × 0.1512
12 is what per cent of 80?12 ÷ 80 × 10015%
From 80 to 92 — what change?(92 − 80) ÷ 80 × 100+15%
92 is 80 plus 15%. What was it before?92 ÷ 1.1580

The fourth is the one that goes wrong, and it has its own section below because it is worth the space.

1. Two discounts do not add up

A shop advertises 20% off, and at the till there is a further 10% off. That is not 30% off.

The second discount applies to the already-reduced price, so the sums multiply rather than add:

0.80 × 0.90 = 0.72 — you pay 72%, which is 28% off, not 30%.

On a €200 jacket that is €144 rather than the €140 you expected — worth checking on a real basket before you decide the till is wrong. The gap grows with the numbers: 50% off then 50% off is 75% off, not free, which is the version that makes it obvious.

The same rule runs the other way with increases. Two 10% rises are a 21% rise, because 1.1 × 1.1 = 1.21. Compounding is just this, repeated.

2. Adding a percentage and taking it away does not undo it

Add 20% to 100 and you get 120. Take 20% off 120 and you get 96.

You are 4% short, and nothing went wrong. The 20% you added was 20% of 100; the 20% you removed was 20% of 120, which is a bigger number. 1.2 × 0.8 = 0.96, always.

Which leads directly to the mistake that costs real money.

Working backwards from a price that includes tax

An invoice says €121 including 21% VAT. How much is the tax?

Not 21% of 121, which is €25.41. The tax was calculated on the amount before it was added, so you have to reverse the multiplication:

121 ÷ 1.21 = 100. The net amount is €100 and the tax is €21.

The general form: to remove a percentage that has already been added, divide by 1 plus the rate. To remove 10%, divide by 1.1. To remove 21%, divide by 1.21. Multiplying by 0.79 gives the wrong answer every time, and it is the single most common percentage error on invoices — try it both ways on a figure of your own and the size of the gap is immediately obvious.

3. Per cent and percentage points are different things

An interest rate goes from 5% to 6%. Has it risen by 1% or by 20%?

Both, and that is exactly why the confusion exists. It is a rise of one percentage point, and a rise of 20 per cent — because 1 is a fifth of 5.

The convention is worth knowing because it is used to make things sound small or large on purpose. A tax going from 20% to 22% is “two percentage points” if you want it to sound modest and “a ten per cent increase” if you do not. Neither is wrong; they are answers to different questions.

When somebody says a rate rose by 2%, and it matters, ask which one they mean.

4. A fall and a rise of the same size are not the same size

Something loses 50% of its value. How much does it have to gain to get back?

Not 50%. It has halved, so it has to double — a 100% rise — to return to where it started.

Fall ofRise needed to recover
10%11.1%
20%25%
50%100%
80%400%

The reason is the same as before: the fall is measured against the starting figure and the recovery against the smaller one. It is why “down 30% then up 30%” is not flat, and why averaging percentage changes over time gives an answer that is not true of anything.

The one that catches people who sell things: markup is not margin

Buy something for 100 and sell it for 150. Is that a 50% markup or a 33% margin?

Both, and they describe the same transaction from two ends.

  • Markup is the profit as a percentage of what it cost you: 50 ÷ 100 = 50%.
  • Margin is the profit as a percentage of what you sold it for: 50 ÷ 150 = 33.3%.

Margin is always the smaller number, and mistaking one for the other is how a business prices itself into trouble while believing it is doing fine. A 100% markup is a 50% margin; a 50% margin needs a 100% markup.

A trick that is genuinely useful

X% of Y is always the same as Y% of X.

Both are just X × Y ÷ 100, so the order does not matter. That sounds like a curiosity until you need 18% of 50 in your head, notice it is the same as 50% of 18, and answer 9 immediately.

It works every time. 4% of 75 is 75% of 4, which is 3. 8% of 25 is 25% of 8, which is 2.

Where each of these turns up

SituationWhich trap
A sale with a second discount at the tillDiscounts multiply, they do not add
An invoice with tax already includedDivide by 1 + the rate, do not subtract
A news report about a rate changePer cent or percentage points?
Anything that dropped and came backThe rise needed is bigger than the fall
Pricing something you are sellingMarkup and margin are different numbers

All of it is arithmetic rather than advice — every example above can be checked in seconds with the percentage calculator, or with the discount calculator for the two-discount case, and both work with no connection at all.

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Common questions

How do I calculate percentage change?

Subtract the old figure from the new one, divide by the old figure, and multiply by 100. From 80 to 92: (92 − 80) ÷ 80 × 100 = 15%. The old figure is always the one you divide by.

Is 20% off then 10% off the same as 30% off?

No. The second discount applies to the already-reduced price, so the sums multiply: 0.8 × 0.9 = 0.72, which is 28% off. The gap grows with the numbers — 50% then 50% is 75% off, not free.

How do I remove tax from a price that includes it?

Divide by 1 plus the rate. For 21% tax on a total of 121, that is 121 ÷ 1.21 = 100 net and 21 tax. Taking 21% off the total instead gives the wrong answer, because the tax was calculated on the smaller figure.

What is the difference between per cent and percentage points?

A rate moving from 5% to 6% has risen by one percentage point and by 20 per cent, because 1 is a fifth of 5. Both are correct and they answer different questions, which is why the phrasing is often chosen deliberately.

Why does a 50% loss need a 100% gain to recover?

Because the loss is measured against the starting figure and the recovery against the smaller one left afterwards. Halving means you must double to get back. A 20% fall needs a 25% rise; an 80% fall needs 400%.

What is the difference between markup and margin?

Markup is profit as a percentage of cost; margin is profit as a percentage of the selling price. Buying at 100 and selling at 150 is a 50% markup and a 33.3% margin. Margin is always the smaller number.

Is there a quick way to do percentages mentally?

X% of Y is always the same as Y% of X, because both are X × Y ÷ 100. So 18% of 50 is 50% of 18, which is 9 — much easier in your head, and it works every time.

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